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No Start! Got fuel

Last post 06-24-2007, 6:00 PM by lcjutila. 5 replies.
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  •  05-26-2007, 9:29 AM 7204

    Crying [:'(] No Start! Got fuel

    Howdy Ya'll,

    New to this forum.

    I have a 85 VDPIII.  The problem is, I have fuel to the fuel rail, but the injectors will not allow it to pass.  If I use starter fluid, it starts till the fluid has diminished.  I've tried all that I can but to no avail.  Any ideas guys.  Any and all information will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks, Greg.

  •  05-26-2007, 8:03 PM 7213 in reply to 7204

    Re: No Start! Got fuel

    GVG,

    Well, finally. I've been dreading a Jaguar fuel injection problem since the forum started. I fear we will not be able to accomplish much via post and repost. The problem is that fuel injection systems like this have about four symptoms and two hundred and fourty one causes. It sounds like your injectors are simply no operating, though I don't know for sure. This could be anything from a vacuum leak at the air flow meter to an electronic processor problem to a bad relay. I'm afraid you need a man (or lady) with test equipment and experience on your particular system, to look at your particular vehicle.

    Alternatively, if you are the adventurous sort with a pretty good understanding of induction theory and some basic test equipment of your own, you can go to one of the Jaguar specific web sites such as jag lovers and search their extensive archives. Otherwise, I suggest you seek out a technician and come to a firm understanding of what results will cost, and how much you will pay for diagnostic work.

    Yes, I have worked on these cars, but I don't feel comfortable sending you on fishing expeditions with expensive bait over the internet. Good luck, and let us know how it's going. If you repost with what you are being told and what you are being quoted for the work I might be able to help you be a wiser consumer. That's the best I can do.


    Motorbill
    From Lola to Land Rover, If it's British and has wheels, it's likely I've bloodied me knuckles thereupon
  •  06-23-2007, 12:31 AM 7933 in reply to 7204

    Re: No Start! Got fuel

    The ecu ( computer) is a very common problem with your car swap it out for a known to be good one, they should be very cheap as there are hundreds of 70s-90s Jags in wreckers now 

     

    Good Luck !!

  •  06-23-2007, 6:20 AM 7935 in reply to 7933

    Re: No Start! Got fuel

    I fear that used ECU will be more expensive than you might think, and will probably not be guaranteed. Then, if you still have the problem you'll be wondering which way is up. Just my thoughts.
    Motorbill
    From Lola to Land Rover, If it's British and has wheels, it's likely I've bloodied me knuckles thereupon
  •  06-23-2007, 8:25 PM 7949 in reply to 7935

    Re: No Start! Got fuel

    Gaston-

    I  don't know if you would have enough time to try this but if you can get the engine to run for a brief moment and you listen wth an engine stethescope to one of the injectors by placing the stethescope on the top of it while the engine is running you should be able to hear it tick tick tick. If you can hear it ticking then it could point to a fuel pressure problem. If you cannot hear clicking then the computor would be more suspect but this would not be definite.  I would think that if the fuel pressure was low but existed on some level at some point enough fuel would drip through the injectors to at least get a pop out of the engine now and then while turning it over. If you have a decent manual and electrical measuring devices you can trouble shoot the sensors that are all connected to the computor one by one. Just went through this on a different make vehicle w/ fuel injection. Happy ending- bad O2 sensor. Try the internet for parts. Most reputable salvage yards give you 90 day warranties. With electrical stuff either it works or it doesn't and you know right away.

    Also, check and clean ALL the ground connections for all the electrical components. This is often overlooked. 

    LCJUTILA 

  •  06-24-2007, 6:00 PM 7966 in reply to 7949

    Re: No Start! Got fuel

    Gaston-

    One more thought. Just because there is fuel in the rails does not mean you have pressure in the rails. The drill for replacing a bad injector on some cars is to disconnect the fuel pump and start the engine until it stops running. This will only relieve pressure in the system. When you go to change out the injector there can still be considerable fuel left in the rail. If there is no fuel pressure in the rail that points to a bad fuel pump or regulator if your car has one. These statements are based on my work on other cars and not the type you have but I believe the theory is the same.

    Anyone else have suggestions?

    LCJUTILA