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TC Radiator alignment

Last post 11-13-2009, 11:57 PM by ddubois. 3 replies.
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  •  11-13-2009, 7:45 AM 21781

    TC Radiator alignment

    My TC radiator is a bit battered and the worse for wear  so it sits askew and need adjustment. It looks like I'll have to add shims where the lower bolts go through the mounting holes on the chassis.

    What are the reference measurements ? e.g. headlamp tie bracket to chassis?

    Does the bonnet sit horizontally on the finished car or is there any slope? I had thought of jacking the car until the chassis is perfectly horizontal and working from there.

  •  11-13-2009, 9:34 AM 21782 in reply to 21781

    Re: TC Radiator alignment

    Well, I can't hand off any TC-specific tidbits, but after re-aassembling the '51 TD a few times, I did learn a few lesssons the hard way.

    The bonnet structure on the TD does have a bit of a slope, created by the use of the hood strip inner support (part #13, p32, Moss catalog) which lifts the bonnet hinge a tad.  Big lesson I learned is to not tighten down fender, bonnet, and radiator stay bolts initially.  Nothing on "T"-series chassis has a precise fit, so you've got to assemble it, stand back 20', adjust the fender this way, the radiator that way, etc, until it looks right.  Then cinch things up.

    I like your idea of leveling the chassis.  The car will likely end up with a truer assembly then the day it rolled out of the Abingdon factory!  Yes

  •  11-13-2009, 3:16 PM 21784 in reply to 21781

    Re: TC Radiator alignment

    henryd,

    What is meant by "jacking the chassis until its perfectly level"? As you know, these frames are not very torsionally rigid. Nor, frankly,are they all that strong in fore/aft bend.

    When we take a car apart here in the shop, we often weld temporary bracing across the cockpit before removing the body. This is to retain original fit. It's sort of the inverse of what I'd advise here.

    Don't force the chassis to do anything it doesn't want to do. Of course, you should measure diagonals and all for damage, but beyond that, all you'll do is force the chassis out of its "set". Imagine what would then happen after you went to great pains to get all those trim pieces and door gaps and latches working nicely, and then began using the car. Believe me, it'll "remember" that old set and start heading there like a trail horse back to the feeding shed.

    Instead, finish the chassis and suspension. If possible, install the engine and gearbox. If not, simulate its weight and placement. Now you can begin to build a car that won't suddenly start chipping its paint at the corners and such. It also will feel more solid (solid being a relative term here!) and "all of a piece" Fewer bits will vibrate and loosen up.

    This advice is not nearly as important with a later car, such as a TD or an A simply because these cars both dave FAR more robust chassis. On these cars, it's the body we brace, but in general, the concept of "freezing" things dimensionally is always worthy of consideration BEFORE the fact


    Motorbill
    From Lola to Land Rover, If it's British and has wheels, it's likely I've bloodied me knuckles thereupon
  •  11-13-2009, 11:57 PM 21786 in reply to 21781

    Re: TC Radiator alignment

    Henry - Go to The TABC web site http://www.mg-tabc.org/ and get signed up, then post your question there.  You will be reaching people there who really know TCs and have probably faces the same problem themselves.

     


    Cheers,
    Dave
    http://homepages.donobi.net/sufuelpumps/