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Help Rebuilding TR3 Brake and Clutch Master Cykinder (Girling)

Last post 09-01-2009, 9:00 PM by TR3Joe. 8 replies.
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  •  08-30-2009, 10:52 PM 20898

    Help Rebuilding TR3 Brake and Clutch Master Cykinder (Girling)

    Hello,

     I'm trying to refurbish the brake and clutch master cylinders. I have them off the car.
    My problem is that I cannot remove the plunger assembly, spring, valve stem assembly.
    I have soaked them in penetrating only. Then I blocked off one hole and forced compress
    air down. No luck though.  Any suggestions or tricks on how to do this. The car sat for a long
    time and no fluids in the hydralics. Any help or suggestions would be great.

    Thanks,

    Joe

  •  08-31-2009, 2:49 PM 20910 in reply to 20898

    Re: Help Rebuilding TR3 Brake and Clutch Master Cykinder (Girling)

    It would be wise, and probably more economical, to replace both master cylinders.

     

    Alfonso 

  •  08-31-2009, 7:00 PM 20913 in reply to 20910

    Re: Help Rebuilding TR3 Brake and Clutch Master Cykinder (Girling)

    How about the unwise and non economical approach of freeing up the pistons?
  •  08-31-2009, 8:42 PM 20919 in reply to 20913

    Re: Help Rebuilding TR3 Brake and Clutch Master Cykinder (Girling)

    tr3joe-

    I think I read somewhere that you can boil the brake parts or assemblies in water and this frees them up. Probably working with them while they are still hot would help too. Remember, I said I THINK I read this somewhere so proceed at your own risk and use common sense.

    GOOD LUCK!

    LCJUTILA 

  •  08-31-2009, 9:24 PM 20920 in reply to 20919

    Re: Help Rebuilding TR3 Brake and Clutch Master Cykinder (Girling)

    Joe, I've  had some slight success in freeing up seized parts by  [long term]soaking in diesel oil, for at least week or so. I think the warm up[ but dry] idea before the dunking in diesel  might also be a good idea, hot air blower??

    If things are that seized up I wonder if the bores are going to be sleevable? Hope you get her back on the road soon, my TR3 memories are old but good! Friends? once  told me that TR  stood for tractor, an unkind reference to the engines provenance, they were just jealous!!                ----Cheers steve


    To a man equipped with only a hammer, most problems look like nails
  •  09-01-2009, 10:48 AM 20923 in reply to 20920

    Re: Help Rebuilding TR3 Brake and Clutch Master Cykinder (Girling)

    From the view of a professional, that cylinder(s) would have hit the recycle bin as soon as I found the piston uncooperative. You may get it all unstuck, but the bore wherein it is seized will almost certainly be unworthy of a rebuild, even after honing. Use new parts, not because it's quicker, but because they'll be far more reliable.
    Motorbill
    From Lola to Land Rover, If it's British and has wheels, it's likely I've bloodied me knuckles thereupon
  •  09-01-2009, 11:10 AM 20926 in reply to 20923

    Re: Help Rebuilding TR3 Brake and Clutch Master Cykinder (Girling)

    Motorbill-

    I agree. Especially when it comes to doing brake work on cars. We all are so interested in getting the car to start when we work on it but it is far more important to get it to stop and stop reliably. How well the car runs will take a back seat very quickly when you find yourself in a position where you need to stop and you can't. If you are very lucky this will result in a minor fender bender whose cost will be much greater than the amount of money saved on a cheapy rebuild of questionable brake parts... and these parts are questionable at best.

    You could try your luck with the clutch parts though.

    As far as a method for unfreezing stuck/rusted assemblies goes... How about if you bought or found one of those heated electric foot soaker/massagers and turned on the heat, filled it with diesel, and set it to vibrate?   That would probably work great!

    Also, I remember where I read about unfreezing brake parts in boiling water. It was Auto Restorer Magazine. 

     

    LCJUTILA 

     

  •  09-01-2009, 4:35 PM 20934 in reply to 20926

    Re: Help Rebuilding TR3 Brake and Clutch Master Cykinder (Girling)

    I don't know... I'd be worried about getting athelete's cylinder, or an ingrown clutch...
    Motorbill
    From Lola to Land Rover, If it's British and has wheels, it's likely I've bloodied me knuckles thereupon
  •  09-01-2009, 9:00 PM 20936 in reply to 20934

    Re: Help Rebuilding TR3 Brake and Clutch Master Cykinder (Girling)

    Hello,

     

    I just wanted to say thanks for all of the replys. some great advise. I ended up not using those pistons.
    Turns out when I went though by boxes of ever growing tr3 and tr6 parts I cam across a pair of pistons that were in great shape.
    So after a quick clean up, a refurbishing kit and I am nerarly done with my brakes. I'll send updates on my progress.

    Again thanks for the help.

     Joe