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53 TD Oil Pump Circlip pn: 326-010

Last post 08-13-2009, 7:26 PM by Gator. 2 replies.
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  •  08-11-2009, 12:36 PM 20618

    53 TD Oil Pump Circlip pn: 326-010

    I noticed as I was tearing down my oil pump that the main shaft circlip which was purchased from Moss a number of years ago, is rubbing the oil pump cover because it is too large.  It actually moves the oil cover around.  While looking on line I found a link that described this very issue and that it was brought to Moss motors attention a few years ago.

    The link is here:  http://www.justbrits.com/tdx/circlip.htm  and http://www.justbrits.com/tdx/circlipIndex.htm

    I have called and spoken to two Moss sales reps and sent a message to the Moss Tech email address.  The reps couldn't answer my question. 

    My question is: is the circlip that Moss is currently selling a new, lower profile, circlip or can I expect to receive the same (improperly sized) circlip if I order what they are currently selling?

     Thx, GA

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  •  08-12-2009, 11:56 AM 20637 in reply to 20618

    Re: 53 TD Oil Pump Circlip pn: 326-010

    Gator.

    This issue was brought to the attention of the Moss Tech staff by Ed in 2003. The problem was verified and a different circlip sourced at that time. Current stock is a low profile circlip which does not have the offending ears.

    Sorry that you had problems getting an answer, the tech e-mail system was recently damaged and many messages lost. The system will be operable again shortly.


    Kelvin Dodd
    Global Sourcing Engineer
    Moss Motors, Ltd.
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  •  08-13-2009, 7:26 PM 20664 in reply to 20637

    Re: 53 TD Oil Pump Circlip pn: 326-010

    Kelvin,  Thanks for the response.  I went ahead and ground down the offending tabs so that I could get the car running but now I know I can get a new circlip from Moss with confidence. 

    There isn't a lot of info out there regarding priming the oil pumps when they've been rebuilt (or at least completely drained).  As I'll so share what I did to get my oil pump working again, in the off-chance it might help someone else:

    1. The workshop manual is rather fuzzy on this subject.  It only mentions, on page A.31, that a "special priming plug has been fitted to the cover to permit the pump to be primed..." But no instructions on how to do so.  Also, while I have the highest regard for ol' Horst and his very fine "complete guide...." (my copy is practially falling apart from study) I couldn't bring myself to pack vasoline into my engine (oil pump) as he suggests to facilitate priming on page 94. 

    2. On my car, TD 25645,  there is a brass plug on the top of the oil pump where the oil pump body connects to the block.  It is just in front of the rear bracket for the generator.  I took off this plug and used it to fill the oil pump with oil using a long necked funnel.  I poured the oil in very slowly, constently checking to see if the cavity had filled up.

    3. I took off the other two plugs that are lower down, but still on the top side of the oil pump.  As I poured the oil into the upper hole I could watch the oil start to fill up those areas and just inserted them as the oil rose up near the threads.  I think doing this helps air escape as the oil flows down into the unit but this possibly (pulling these two plugs) wasn't necessary.

    4. I then cranked the car but noticed that oil pressure wasn't coming up so stopped.   I had read in a string that one fellow had rotated his tires backwards to insure the priming oil was pulled down into the pump.  As I had the radiator out of the car (a situation that anyone pulling apart their oil pump is most likely to find themselves in), I could simply use a socket and rachet on the main pully bolt to turn the crank counter clockwise.  I did this about a full revolution or so.

    5.  Recranked the car and, presto, oil pressure.

    Perhaps there are other ways to skin this cat but this worked for me.  Hope this helps others. 

    btw, as I noted above, I have a rather late TD, so these priming plugs might not be on the newer cars.  Also, if there is a better way to do this (on a late model TD), I'd really like to hear from you. 

    Thx, GA